I was tweating yesterday about some big folds that I made in my Sunday tournaments. At least one person expressed interest, so here are the two biggest.
Villain was 11/8, and I’d been reasonable to tight, though admittedly my Team Online avatar does seem to make people a little suspicious:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold’em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
MP1 (t16008)
MP2 (t82378)
MP3 (t37274)
CO (t63325)
Button (t78970)
SB (t31666)
BB (t69348)
UTG (t62171)
Hero (t67844)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Qh, Qd.
1 fold, Hero raises to t4000, 4 folds, Button raises to t10000, 2 folds, Hero calls t6000.
Flop: (t21400) 4d, Jc, 9s (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t24000, Hero folds.
Final Pot: t45400
Results in white below:
No showdown. Button wins t45400.
The cold caller is 13/9:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold’em Tourney, Big Blind is t1000 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
CO (t58623)
Button (t21553)
SB (t54977)
BB (t56432)
UTG (t12275)
UTG+1 (t23292)
MP1 (t41378)
MP2 (t35184)
Hero (t39738)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Kc, Kd.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t2125, 2 folds, Hero raises to t3999, CO calls t3999, 3 folds, UTG+1 folds.
Flop: (t10648) 8c, Td, Qc (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t6300, Hero folds.
Final Pot: t16948
Results in white below:
No showdown. CO wins t16948.
Quick question on the first one: If you’re sure he has KK, AA, why are you calling the 3bet for more than 10% of your stack? Why aren’t you folding to the 3bet PF? If he bets less – say ~13k are you folding as well?
Big Folds indeed. I would at least reraised those KK one time to ca 15k and take it from there . U lose (probably) to any set and AA (he has no AA here PF), but to me villains range includes AQo, KQo and QJs, JJ, and maybe some others.. I think you have more than 50% of winning show down here..
I’d be more than surprised if a nitty player is cold-calling an EP 3-bet vs. an EP raise with AQ/KQ/QJ. Even AK seems unlikely. Against a range of TT+, we have 36% equity. Throw in AK and we still aren’t a favorite, though I wouldn’t fold if I knew for sure he could have AK.
Once I raise to 15K I’m committed to call off against even that tighter range, so I don’t want to do that. I suppose betting and then shutting down would be an option, but really I feel like I already have the information I need. This is a terrible flop for me given the range I put him on, and I don’t want to put any more money in the pot.
Given a equity of 36% its an obvious fold. Tricky board against QJ of course.
On the second hand, is it standard to 3b so small? I would expect, in tournaments, for a normal 3b to be about 5k right? Wouldn’t you want a higher % of the stacks in PF?
It’s really stack sizes that are relevant moreso than the fact that this is specifically a tournament. In this case I felt this size was enough to put the PFR to a push/fold decision. If he really wants to flat it, I don’t see him turning that into a profitable play even if he is getting pretty good odds to do so.
What about the dynamic of those left to come in after you? Maybe the CO never calls in the first place if you make a stronger 3B?
Pretty sure he’s not folding the only hand I want him to fold…
Touche, Mr. Bond.
hand 1 looks like a good fold with his overbet to the flop looking to shut down draws and committ a pair like QQ, but maybe we gave him too much credit?
hand 2 though… that’s nitty as hell. I don’t see how you can narrow V’s range down to hand tht beats you here. is it not plausible to think V has JJ here a decent percentage of the time with position and a check from you?
And you gave us a hard time for playing too nitty at the home game final table Sunday.