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Episode 253 with Bryan Devonshire
Timestamps
0:30 – Hello & welcome!
12:43 – Strategy
Strategy
It’s a 2c/5c NLHE zoom poker game, 6 handed, on Bovada. I have $10.50 in my stack and villain has me covered, so we are at 210 blinds effective.
I am first to act with black QQ. I elect to limp and immediately get raised to 20c by UTG +1. It folds back around to me. I call.
We go to the flop with 47 cents in the pot. Qd Jc 9d. I check, and villain checks back.
Turn is an offsuit Jack, I check Villain bet 33c into 47c, and I raise pot, making it $1.46 to go. He calls.
We go to the river with $3.39 in the pot and about $8.80 in effective stacks. River is the 5 of hearts. I elect to overbet about 1.5x pot, $5.18.
Hey guys,
I have a few questions and a hand that has been bothering me.
I own my own company and play poker recreationally at the 1-3, 2-5 level. My company hosts poker events at senior communities (nursing homes, assisted living communities, adult day care centers). Greatest job I’ve ever had!
I started a few sessions back buying in to 1-2nhl, then moving to 1-3nhl when I was up, then I’d go to 2-2 plo, then to 2-5nhl and 10-10 NHL if it was running. This has been profitable and is a ton of fun, as each game and it’s players are wlidly different. Though to be honest I have been starting at 1-3, as 1-2 is actually tougher to get ahead in and not as much fun for me.
On to the hand:
This hand takes place at a Parx 1-3 table, Sunday night around 1am. A lively table with 90%+ preflop raises and 4+ players seeing the flop each time. We have been up and down buying in a second time for a total of $600.
The maximum buy in is $500 but I usually do $300. My rationale is that I am looking to win most pots around $300 ($100 from me $200 from opponents)… Once you go over that at this level you usually need or are up against the nuts, so limiting my risk in these situations is better. Thoughts…
UTG ($800~ loose player who plays a ton of hands for raises or not) calls, us ($533 we also play a ton of hands, usually for a raise) call $3 with 6c 7c. I like raising suited connectors and usually do. I have been very active lately and decide to just call.
Button ($500~ once again, plays a ton of hands and gets sticky with over cards) raises to $15. BB ($300~) calls, utg calls and we call.
Flop Kd 9d 8c
Checks around to button who bets $20. BB folds, UTG raises to $60.
When the button bets $20 into $60($53 after rake and bad beat drop) it was my plan to raise it to $60. When the UTG raised I thought he had a bare K, maybe two pair. I decide to call getting a good price on my draw. The button folds.
Turn is the 7 of hearts.
UTG thinks about it and bets $100. I decide to raise to $225, leaving me $223 behind. I improved my draw to a 7, 5, 10 and possibly a 6. It looks like I called with J10 and got there on the turn. Against this guy he will call any two pair or sets with a chance to fill up on the river, so I don’t think he’s ever folding, so I don’t want to get it all in on the turn. I plan on jamming any non pairing card on the river to get him to release any bare K, two pairs or sets when he doesn’t improve. If the board pairs I’m probably jamming if he checks, but will give up if he bets.
River is the Jc
He gives a shoulder drop and exhale while he checks. I think for a moment then push my last $223 into the middle. He thinks, and thinks, and thinks, appologizes and thinks some more. Finally he tosses in a chip exclaiming, I flopped it so I call.
“It” was K8 for two pair.
Was this a case of overthinking… Of thinking my opponent would think like me… Did I get this wrong and of course he has it… Not sure but it has been stuck on my brain. I get over ambitious sometimes and think this may have been one of those times.
Thanks for the pod cast, I anxiously await them every week as I travel a ton with business and fill my ears with pod casts all day. Keep up the incredible work.
Carl
If you are in a situation where you keep getting limped to by multiple opponents, in the small blind, only to always find the big blind puts in a big raise when you limp in as well then surely it makes sense to limp your entire range in that spot? You can fold 80% of the time, re-raise 20% of the time with your better holdings and comfortably go all-in pre-flop with the top 10% of your range. Those numbers are just off the top of my head and would need to be worked out more accurately, but the basic principle is sound surely? It’s the best way of picking up dead money, of which it sounds like there will be plenty on a table such as this. If the big blind raises and picks up one or two callers, before the action comes back around to you, then you have an enormous amount of information for a very small investment – and with a pot already worth fighting for.