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Andrew and Nate discuss a live cash game hand submitted by a listener, and then fundraising contest winner Jason Simon joins them to discuss a hand he played in a live MTT.
Timestamps
0:30 Hello & Welcome
4:45 Strategy Part 1
43:28 Strategy with Jason Simon
Strategy
Hand 1
$1/$2 NLHE at the Motown Casino. I open with A♥️ K♠️ in MP to $10, get five callers including both villains.
Flop (six players, $55 after rake): K♦️ 9♦️ 3♦️. Checks to me. I bet $40, three folds, V1 in CO raises to $80, V2 in BB calls, Hero ?.
Hand 2
$550 tourney at Sands 45 minute levels. I’m at level 11, blinds 600/1200/200, I have 55K, villain covers slightly.
Flopped a set of 8’s, on a 983 2 spade flop. Original raiser bets 6k, I raise to 16K, he thinks and calls.
Turn J spade, he bets 20K. Hero?
Hand 1: fold from bb cold caller?
Hand 2: if we’re calling the turn he’s only leaving 15k behind. With a call on the turn it’s roughly 20+20+16+16+3(raise pf)+3(raise pf) = 78k(estimate)
2 seems tricky. I can’t wait to listen!
Hi Guys,
Couple comments on hand 2 that will turn into a long-winded blog:
Preflop – I like the call, but this cannot be viewed as a pure set mine or it is not a profitable call imo. You’ll have to win the pot at least some of the time w/o flopping a set. Feedback from the Andrew and Nate on this point would be appreciated …
Flop – Generalizing and stereotyping: Older recreational players are inclined to put people on sets when they get raised on flops after getting called preflop. It’s the easiest hand to put someone on that they can’t beat, especially on that board. That doesn’t mean he is always going to fold, just say “I knew you had a set” as he exits. Since he was “new to the tbl” though, let’s say he’s a podcast listener and views Jason as a tight recreational player, then he can comfortably fold his overpair on the flop as he likely only gets raised with a hand better than one pair imo. If you’re a tight-rec player, you’re prob calling one pair hands, draws and even slow playing sometimes w sets/2pair hands. The only way he’s just flatting Jason’s flop raise is 1) He’s a thinking player, views Jason as a thinking player that is raising light, and plans to ck/call turn and riv and punk him 2) He’s not ever capable of folding an overpair on this type of flop, which very well might be correct, but I’m def folding to certain types or players even with AA here 3) He has a set 4) He has a draw … J10 or spades. When listening to this in the moment, I thought, he’s gonna show up with J10spades and not get them in on the flop, which obv became impossible. Podcast listeners would of course think he 3bet shoves the flop with J10spades, but live rec players do weird things, especially when they know they’re up against sets 🙂
Turn – I like the shove. I was a good bet by the villain. I’m curious what Andrew or Nate do if they are checked to … I would check back and reevaluate on the river.