This is probably the dumbest thing I’ve done all WCOOP. Villain is Pascal Lefrancois. I don’t know much about him except that he’s very good. This is just a classic example of what not to do when you have a big stack in a very soft tournament. Just flatting his 3bet is probably best, but 4-betting to 6-bet has got to be the worst possible option. Considering that he has the option of calling for a good price and seeing a flop in position, it’s hard to imagine him finding hands he’d rather 5-bet-fold or even hands against which AK performs reasonably well. Surely he flats QQ to the 4-bet.
PokerStars – $665+$35|200/400 Ante 50 NL – Holdem – 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BB: 73.5 BB
Hero (UTG): 107.43 BB
UTG+1: 45.14 BB
MP: 128.49 BB
MP+1: 145.05 BB
MP+2: 87.37 BB
CO: 85.57 BB
BTN: 299.2 BB
SB: 95.52 BB
9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 2.63 BB) Hero has Ks Ah
Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 13.13 BB, CO raises to 23.5 BB, Hero raises to 107.31 BB and is all-in, CO calls 61.94 BB and is all-in
Flop : (173.51 BB, 2 players) 3s 8c Js
Turn : (173.51 BB, 2 players) 9h
River : (173.51 BB, 2 players) 8h
Hero shows Ks Ah (One Pair, Eights) (Pre 7%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
CO shows Ad Ac (Two Pair, Aces and Eights) (Pre 93%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
CO wins 173.51 BB
There is always money in the banana stand.
Yeah, that’s a cultural problem is what it is. You know, your average American male is in a perpetual state of adolescence, you know, arrested development.
“he has the option of calling for a good price and seeing a flop in position”
I’m a terrible holdem player, so I’m probably wrong, but maybe the issue is that your 4-bet sizing is too small? Perhaps you even want to use two different 4-bet sizing: a larger one for AK, KK and some of your light 4-bets, and a smaller one with AA and some other light 4-bets?
I mean, I guess it’s possible that AK is just too weak to 4-bet when you’re UTG in a 9-handed table, because there are 8 people left to act that can each be dealt AA or KK, but it still seems to me like a great hand to 4-bet, and a kind of sucky one to play OOP. (I know Nate tends to like flatting AK OOP even to a single raise, but that’s when his range is not well-defined; in this spot your range is much more well-defined because you opened in EP).
I wouldn’t feel too bad, Pascal seems to have a talent for this – see from 15:24: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Ize1EwiIU
In the alternate universe where you flat the c-bet, do you x/f the flop, or are your overs + smidgens of backdoor straightandflush equity enough to get you to either peel one? Not judging.
I mean flat the 3-bet, not c-bet, obv. Now who’s judging.