This one was against a not-very-good player:
Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold’em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com – Hand History Converter
Hero (UTG): $1,454.70
MP: $1,323.15
CO: $546.65
BTN: $318
SB: $621.75
BB: $590.95
Pre-Flop: A
T
dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $21, 4 folds, BB calls $15
Flop: ($45) J 7
A (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $33, BB calls $33
Turn: ($111) 5
(2 Players)
BB bets $50, Hero calls $50
River: ($211) A (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $150, BB raises to $486.95 and is All-In, Hero calls $336.95
Results: $1,184.90 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero mucked A T (three of a kind, Aces) and LOST (-$590.95 NET)
BB showed A K (three of a kind, Aces) and WON $1,181.90 (+$590.95 NET)
I usually fold in this spot, but it just seemed so unlikely that he would take the lead on the turn with two pair or a set and then check the river. Frankly I expected to see either a boat or a bluff, not that I don’t like the way he played it. He probably does get a bet out of a Jack this way that would have folded if he led the river. Plus he got my donk ass to call with AT.
This one was against a very good player:
Full Tilt Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold’em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com – Hand History Converter
CO: $1,660.35
BTN: $426
SB: $1,005
BB: $1,077
Hero (UTG): $2,099
Pre-Flop: T K dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $35, 2 folds, SB calls $30, BB folds
Flop: ($80) 6 3 T (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $44, SB raises to $158, Hero calls $114
Turn: ($396) A (2 Players)
SB bets $300, Hero raises to $1,906 and is All-In, SB calls $512 and is All-In
River: ($2,020) 5 (2 Players – 1 is All-In)
Results: $2,020 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed Q Q (a pair of Queens) and WON $2,017 (+$1,012 NET)
Hero showed T K (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-$1,005 NET)
He did a really nice job of depolarizing his range here. I was putting him on either a draw or a set. While it’s possible he had the nut flush draw and got there on the turn, I wasn’t sure he would bet that. Plus, the A is a good scary card for him to follow up if he is semi-bluffing.
Pwned.
Generally I cover up the screen on your HHs and try to evaluate the hand as I go. On the flop I put him on JJ. Then the safety bet into the ace on the turn still had me thinking JJ but also AQ/AK. When he calls the shove I pretty much discounted JJ (which is The same as QQ) but in hindsight it is fairly reasonable for him to put you on a drawing hand to which the ace is academic. (How long did he wait before calling?). Interesting hand.
For readers wondering about my thinking – I might add that I add AK/AQ into his range on the turn since a lot of good players can overcall AQ+ OOP preflop and use their “reraising chips” to raise a raggety flop to generate fold equity rather than just reraising the pot preflop to win a smaller pot. Your thoughts?
fuel, I disagree about adding ak/aq to his range on the turn as I am certain about 95% of players at 5/10 would be 3 betting those hand pre flop. I do believe the main question that the QQ player should be asking himself is what is focault calling my 3.6x reraise with on the flop? I doubt that floating with AK or AQ is a profitable play in the long run while facing that big of a reraise. So really what is in his range (certainly A10, JJ is a big part of that range). I’d love for facault to have AA or KK there, it would have made for a beautiful hand there.
Good question, Fuel. The thing is that I tanked for a while before shoving the turn, so I think once I do that he can be pretty comfortable calling with JJ.
I wouldn’t expect to see AK/AQ here too often, but against a smart player it can’t be discounted entirely.
I agree that AQ+ isn’t a big part of the range here (but its some part). But to Eugene’s comment — $5/10 is a varied range of players – many of whom can flat call AQ+ and some subset of them who can RR (IP) or CR (OOP) with ace high on raggety flops.
Fuel, point taken. I was actually watching D. Bennefield’s (sp?) card runners video where he specifically mentioned calling raises in the blinds with hands like kj and either leading at a raggy flop or c/r his opponent. So I see what you’re saying.
I may write a post about this concept Eugene. It’s a pointless tool in your arsenal at low levels but higher up it makes some sense on occasion.